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Re: Please remove the following content

From: Jeff Johnson <n3npq@mac.com>
Date: Tue 05 Jul 2011 - 15:08:45 CEST
Message-id: <2074B47F-1390-4AE4-8F19-FB0EAAC897E6@mac.com>

On Jul 5, 2011, at 4:32 AM, Hulin, Gerlinde (E D EA SOL D TC1) wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello,
> The following two mails got in your archive without my agreeement. I cannot
> accept that my complete adress and email contact is online.

My memory of the series of events leading to these messages goes like this:

-> You sent mail privately asking about POPT licensing.
<- I replied that the concerns should be posted to <popt-devel@rpm5.org>.

POPT is an open-source project that conducts matters "transparently" and publicly,
particular for matters like license audits.

-> You posted publicly here:
	http://rpm5.org/community/popt-devel/0244.html
<- The issues were replied to here:
	http://rpm5.org/community/popt-devel/0245.html

You did ask (and received an answer) on a public mailing list.

-> You (again) requested a resolution to your issues here:
	http://rpm5.org/community/popt-devel/0246.html
<- You received two replies here:
	http://rpm5.org/community/popt-devel/0247.html
	http://rpm5.org/community/popt-devel/0248.html

And now you wish to undo actions that you initiated, with replies
as requested, because you dod not "consent" to publishing your
contact information on line?

At a minimum, your contact information is in more than the two messages
you are requesting being removed. And removing only 2 messages is _NOT_ considering that
the public <popt-devel@rpm5.org> mailing list is reflected in many
other locations on the internet.

Even if I removed the messages in <popt-devel@rpm5.org>, you seem to have
given (imho, I am not a lawyer) implied consent by initiating actions that
contained your contact info and choosing to publish on a public mailing list.

I can/will remove the messages in <popt-devel@rpm5.org> if there is better
reason than that you did not realize what "public" and "transparent" means
when you requested information. Otherwise, consistent with policy @rpm5.org,
I'd prefer to leave the public record exactly as is: other actions, like
removing messages and otherwise changing the public record, are inconsistent
with the intents and goals of a FL/OSS project.

73 de Jeff


>>> 
> Please remove the conent from the archive
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/popt-devel@rpm5.org/msg00245.html
> http://www.mail-archive.com/popt-devel@rpm5.org/msg00246.html
> 
> Thank you very much
> 
> Best regards,
> Gerlinde Hulin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mail Archive Support [mailto:themailarchive@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:34 PM
> To: Hulin, Gerlinde (E D EA SOL D TC1)
> Subject: Re: Please remove the following content
> 
> Gerlinde,
> 
> All the information we have on that list can be found here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/popt-devel@rpm5.org/info.html
> 
> Beyond that, we do not know the contact information for the mailing
> list administrators.  Most mailing list services have a "-owner"
> address where you can reach the list admin (for example, if the list
> is gossip@jab.org then the list admin can likely be reached at
> gossip-owner@jab.org).  If this does not work, you will need to search
> for the website that hosts the mailing list, or post a question to the
> mailing list.
> 
> Tom
> Support
> The Mail Archive
> 
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Hulin, Gerlinde (E D EA SOL D TC1)
> <gerlinde.hulin@siemens.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Who is the list administrator ? Since this email got published without my aproval I do not know who added this content. However you can see from my email account that my email account is in the two web pages.
>> _http://www.mail-archive.com/popt-devel@rpm5.org/msg00245.html_
>>> _http://www.mail-archive.com/popt-devel@rpm5.org/msg00246.html_
>> Best regards,
>> Gerlinde Hulin
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mail Archive Support [mailto:themailarchive@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 PM
>> To: Hulin, Gerlinde (E D EA SOL D TC1)
>> Subject: Re: Please remove the following content
>> 
>> Gerlinde,
>> 
>> Thanks for writing.  The Mail Archive's policy is to delete messages
>> only with the approval of the list administrator.  We are providing a
>> free service for list administrators and the admin needs to be the
>> final decision maker on archived list content.
>> 
>> Please discuss your request with the list admin and have him contact
>> us directly if he wishes to remove the posts from the archive.
>> 
>> Tom
>> Support
>> The Mail Archive
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Hulin, Gerlinde (E D EA SOL D TC1)
>> <gerlinde.hulin@siemens.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> The following two mails got in your archive without my agreeement. I cannot
>>> accept that my complete adress and email contact is online.
>>> 
>>> Please remove the conent from the archive
>>> 
>>> _http://www.mail-archive.com/popt-devel@rpm5.org/msg00245.html_
>>> _http://www.mail-archive.com/popt-devel@rpm5.org/msg00246.html_
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Gerlinde Hulin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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