But then there is the other direction, lusers are surprised that lazy mkdirs are done, with lazy rpmdb creattion as well: rpm -qa --dbpath /tmp/XyZ ls -al /tmp/XyZ I've been going in booth legacy compatible "strict" and forward looking "loose" directions for years simultaneously. Make the call, rip the other. I'm tired of explaining ... 73 de JeffReceived on Sun Jul 29 21:36:15 2007