On Aug 27, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Alexey Tourbin wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 01:44:15PM -0400, Jeff Johnson wrote:
>>> Anyway, perhaps you should try to persuade SuSE guys that rpm5 is
>>> beneficial for them.  That could be a big win.
>>
>> All the SuSE guys were invited @rpm5.org last October. None  
>> bothered to
>> even acknowledge the invitation. They are certainly still welcome
>> @rpm5.org.
>
> Is there any benefit for them to join rpm5.org?  There must be a good
> reason.  There's nothing more than that.  (They might know that  
> there's
> a good reason, or they might know that there is not.  This is rather
> non-political argument.)
>

Asking me what their reason(s) are is pointless. All I know is I asked,
and saw several SuSE developers at both FOSDEM in February and OLS
last month.

There's lots that is dead-on with the OpenSUSE build system. OTOH,
some of the compatibility issues integrating "weak dependencies" and
the other RFE's at
     http://wiki.rpm.org/Problems_of_Building
will be tricky, not all of the mentioned problems are properly  
formulated yet imho.

> Well, something what, basically I like rpm5.org because things are
> straight and there's no any kind of political endorsement or whatever.
> I can hack as long as I like and as long as I don't break too much.
> This also means that I can contribute back and forth (even if I don't
> like some of rpm5 new pieces.)  Perhaps this is a good reason for
> developers to join.

;-) Basically why I joined @rpm5.org too.

Have fun, you're doing fine "breaking things" ;-)

Seriously, rpm "make check" is starting to congeal sufficiently
that I'm way less worried about undetected breakage like
RPM_CHAR_TYPE. Yes better "legacy" checks need to be added.

73 de Jeff